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posted by Amethyst23 # 4:59 PM 
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I couldn't sign up or post there for some reason. I wanted to add this to the 'Holocaust Revision' thread:
A great book on the Holocaust is "The Good Old Days: The Holocaust as Seen by It's Perpetrators and Bystanders"( Klee, Dressen, Riess. eds)
Here are some quotes:
"I estimate that the number of Jews gassed at Sobibor was about 350,000. In the canteen at Sobibor I once overheard a conversation between Frenzel, Stangl and Wagner. They were discussing the number of victims in the extermination camps of Belzec, Treblinka and Sobibor and expressed their regret that Sobibor 'came last' in the competition" (Eric Bauer -- known as the 'Gasmeister' by the prisoners) (p 232)
"I commanded Auschwitz up until 1 December 1943 and estimate that at least 2 1/2 million victims were executed or eliminated there by gassing and burning. At least a further half a million died as a result of hunger and illness, which makes a total of about 3 million. This figure represents about 70 or 80 per cent of all people who were sent as prisoners to Auschwitz. The rest were selected for slave labour in the factories and workshops in the concentration camp." ( Rudolf Hoss, affidavit of 5 April 1945) (p 254)
Why would they lie about something like this?
A great book on the Holocaust is "The Good Old Days: The Holocaust as Seen by It's Perpetrators and Bystanders"( Klee, Dressen, Riess. eds)
Here are some quotes:
"I estimate that the number of Jews gassed at Sobibor was about 350,000. In the canteen at Sobibor I once overheard a conversation between Frenzel, Stangl and Wagner. They were discussing the number of victims in the extermination camps of Belzec, Treblinka and Sobibor and expressed their regret that Sobibor 'came last' in the competition" (Eric Bauer -- known as the 'Gasmeister' by the prisoners) (p 232)
"I commanded Auschwitz up until 1 December 1943 and estimate that at least 2 1/2 million victims were executed or eliminated there by gassing and burning. At least a further half a million died as a result of hunger and illness, which makes a total of about 3 million. This figure represents about 70 or 80 per cent of all people who were sent as prisoners to Auschwitz. The rest were selected for slave labour in the factories and workshops in the concentration camp." ( Rudolf Hoss, affidavit of 5 April 1945) (p 254)
Why would they lie about something like this?
http://www2.iptcp.net:36668/opendebate/index.php
Perhaps the above link will work more appropriately.
Perhaps the above link will work more appropriately.
Hoess claimed to have been tortured after he was captured, so deniers like to reject his reminsces as fabricated or compelled by intimidation.
But we know he was tortured because he discussed the experience in his memoir, and it's difficult to imagine that the British would have allowed that fact to stand if they were censoring or altering or otherwise tainting them.
But we know he was tortured because he discussed the experience in his memoir, and it's difficult to imagine that the British would have allowed that fact to stand if they were censoring or altering or otherwise tainting them.
If you haven't been able to sign up to the forum by now, Charles, I'll be more than glad to post it on there for you.
Speakinbg of forums, what ever happened to MootStormfront? There was a thread there I wanted to re-read where someone asked WNs how they would set up their White nation and what they thought it would be like.
I see them talking about wanting to be left alone in peace when they're criticized, but I don't see how it could be done without violating millions of people's civil rights.
They can't just go off to an island somewhere -- with just the people in their so-called movement now, and imbeciles such as Gaede and Strom as leaders, they would be eating their shoes in no time.
Are they planning on converting millions of people to their cause and then going off somewhere else? Of course not. If they had enough converts, they would try to tear this country apart. The intelligent people that Pierce so hoped would join the NA are not the kind of people that are easily converted. Stormfront is a joke.
I see them talking about wanting to be left alone in peace when they're criticized, but I don't see how it could be done without violating millions of people's civil rights.
They can't just go off to an island somewhere -- with just the people in their so-called movement now, and imbeciles such as Gaede and Strom as leaders, they would be eating their shoes in no time.
Are they planning on converting millions of people to their cause and then going off somewhere else? Of course not. If they had enough converts, they would try to tear this country apart. The intelligent people that Pierce so hoped would join the NA are not the kind of people that are easily converted. Stormfront is a joke.
Mootstormfront will not be online anytime soon, as the administrators there have failed to pay the server fees.
http://PrussianBlue.ytmnd.com/
Haha, I didn't make this....But when you see it, turn up the volume. Seriously. THESE GIRLS CANNOT SING. Their voices sound like any idiot little girls chanting kiddie songs, they can't harmonize, they have no passion, they play their instruments so sloppily.....They're like every other fake popstar (you know, the ones in the "Jew media") that is just marketed off of an image, and not their actual music.
Haha, I didn't make this....But when you see it, turn up the volume. Seriously. THESE GIRLS CANNOT SING. Their voices sound like any idiot little girls chanting kiddie songs, they can't harmonize, they have no passion, they play their instruments so sloppily.....They're like every other fake popstar (you know, the ones in the "Jew media") that is just marketed off of an image, and not their actual music.
The funny thing is that they used to be slightly better singers than they are now. On the ABC special, they played a clip of the girls when they were likely about 10 singing Victory Day and Lynx was somewhat in tune and sounded rather sweet (if you just ignore the fact that Victory Day is about genocide).
Now, their voices are HIDEOUS. What happened? As soon as they hit puberty they got worse. I thought that only happened to boys.
Now, their voices are HIDEOUS. What happened? As soon as they hit puberty they got worse. I thought that only happened to boys.
Since the most you seem to wish to do is post dumbass "jokes," and not discuss issues, you really shouldn't complain about antis supposedly refusing to debate you.
http://www.prussianblue.net/Prussian_Blue-Gone_With_The_Breeze.mp3
Eew....Just, eew. That guitar playing is just way too mediocre, how could anybody listen to that shit and think it sounds good? And their voices....I keep getting this feeling, the feeling you get when you hear fingernails scratching a chalkboard, whenever they put a lot of stress in their voices, and try so hard to sing decently you can feel and hear their voices breaking under the strain. Sorry, girls, you just don't sing well. YOU CAN NOT SING. Face it. Get a new form of racist propoganda - music just isn't going to cut it for you hags.
Eew....Just, eew. That guitar playing is just way too mediocre, how could anybody listen to that shit and think it sounds good? And their voices....I keep getting this feeling, the feeling you get when you hear fingernails scratching a chalkboard, whenever they put a lot of stress in their voices, and try so hard to sing decently you can feel and hear their voices breaking under the strain. Sorry, girls, you just don't sing well. YOU CAN NOT SING. Face it. Get a new form of racist propoganda - music just isn't going to cut it for you hags.
As I was reading another blog, I was reminded of the fact that a great deal of WN/racist musicians are still playing Blues influenced Rock music.
These imbeciles think that just because it isn't rap, they aren't ripping off/borrowing from African American culture.
These imbeciles think that just because it isn't rap, they aren't ripping off/borrowing from African American culture.
Who cares whether or not PB can sing, if they are selling CD'S?
Half of the "popular" singers and bands are no good any how.
The Jews just decide to make stars out of them because they are good looking, or serve some other Jew purpose.
Half of the "popular" singers and bands are no good any how.
The Jews just decide to make stars out of them because they are good looking, or serve some other Jew purpose.
Are the Jooz responsible for Capitalism, Communism, or both?
I know it was both in Germany back in the day, but I just want to make sure we're all on the same page here.
I know it was both in Germany back in the day, but I just want to make sure we're all on the same page here.
Thank you for bringing that up - it's exactly what I've always wondered! White racists go on about how Jews are so greedy, only care about money, etc...Yet, at the same time are mostly responsible for Communism, which is pretty much the anti-greed system. I don't mean this as an attack at all, I honestly want some answers from all you WNs.
Communism is a system where 90% of the people are equal. ( Equally poor )
The other 10% ( Jews ) are filthy rich.
The other 10% ( Jews ) are filthy rich.
antiheart: My partner and I still laugh about that other dude who was on that PrimeTime show. "I HOPE YOUR BABY IS WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE" Oh God that was awful... but not too awful that it wasn't hilarious. ;)
So the Soviet Jews were acting against the Jews that control America and vice versa?
What do the Communist Jews in China, N. Korea, Vietnam and Cuba have to say about all of this?
What do the Communist Jews in China, N. Korea, Vietnam and Cuba have to say about all of this?
Ughhh! Is this clip really them? http://www.prussianblue.net/Prussian_Blue-Gone_With_The_Breeze.mp3
They are terrible! I laughed aloud many times throughout the song. "took awa-ayay..." Hehehee. Also, Amethyst, are you finished posting?
They are terrible! I laughed aloud many times throughout the song. "took awa-ayay..." Hehehee. Also, Amethyst, are you finished posting?
They don't? Okay, Yama, you now have to give full details on this one. Or at least link me to someplace that will.
There is a thread on Stormfront about the new Prussian Blue MySpace site. This is from that thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarMaiden
Are the girls also playing all the music on this cd? :End Quote
(April Gaede writes)
Lamb and Lynx played all the music on thier first CD as you probably know.
On the new Cd, The Path We Chose, they have composed the music for 7 out of 9 of the songs and they have written the origional lyrics for five of the songs.
Lamb plays rhythm guitar on every track and they have backup musicians playing too. We did this because we wanted a full band sound on this one.
By the way, April and her goons are moderating the new MySpace site pretty tightly. Go see all the ugly WH idiots who have signed up as "friends" of Prussian Blue. They are REAL losers!
http://myspace.com/40223762
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarMaiden
Are the girls also playing all the music on this cd? :End Quote
(April Gaede writes)
Lamb and Lynx played all the music on thier first CD as you probably know.
On the new Cd, The Path We Chose, they have composed the music for 7 out of 9 of the songs and they have written the origional lyrics for five of the songs.
Lamb plays rhythm guitar on every track and they have backup musicians playing too. We did this because we wanted a full band sound on this one.
By the way, April and her goons are moderating the new MySpace site pretty tightly. Go see all the ugly WH idiots who have signed up as "friends" of Prussian Blue. They are REAL losers!
http://myspace.com/40223762
It's funny how they say "the only real alternative band". Doesn't every pretentious band that fails tell themselves that they aren't mainstream enough, or that the indy label people are all scenesters?
Don't they know the history of Rock music? That isn't White music they're playing. They should be playing Polka music.
Don't they know the history of Rock music? That isn't White music they're playing. They should be playing Polka music.
Hahaha, I requested those Prussian Cunt-whores to be my myspace-friends (I have a very Jewish myspace).....I can't wait to see if they reply!
"Hahaha, I requested those Prussian Cunt-whores to be my myspace-friends (I have a very Jewish myspace).....I can't wait to see if they reply!"
Lol, yelena. Do keep us posted!
"I tried again, and this time I was able to register without any problems. "
Awesome. : - )
Lol, yelena. Do keep us posted!
"I tried again, and this time I was able to register without any problems. "
Awesome. : - )
Aww, they looked at my myspace but didn't add me. :(
So, that completely disproves their whole "We aren't racist! We don't hate anybody! We just want to have pride in our heritage! LOLZ!" argument. If they don't hate (or at least dislike) other races, then why are they so unfriendly towards them? So, let's see...None of the white supremacist ideas can ever be backed up by a real, hard, fact....Their whole movement is based on negative things like hatred and ignorance of other people's cultures....Somebody please tell me why, exactly, these psychos are taken even the least bit seriously. Ugh.....It's so sad that people like them are allowed to breathe the same air as us.
So, that completely disproves their whole "We aren't racist! We don't hate anybody! We just want to have pride in our heritage! LOLZ!" argument. If they don't hate (or at least dislike) other races, then why are they so unfriendly towards them? So, let's see...None of the white supremacist ideas can ever be backed up by a real, hard, fact....Their whole movement is based on negative things like hatred and ignorance of other people's cultures....Somebody please tell me why, exactly, these psychos are taken even the least bit seriously. Ugh.....It's so sad that people like them are allowed to breathe the same air as us.
"Aww, they looked at my myspace but didn't add me. :(
So, that completely disproves their whole "We aren't racist! We don't hate anybody! We just want to have pride in our heritage! LOLZ!" argument. If they don't hate (or at least dislike) other races, then why are they so unfriendly towards them? So, let's see...None of the white supremacist ideas can ever be backed up by a real, hard, fact....Their whole movement is based on negative things like hatred and ignorance of other people's cultures....Somebody please tell me why, exactly, these psychos are taken even the least bit seriously. Ugh.....It's so sad that people like them are allowed to breathe the same air as us. "
It's probably the one of the most puzzling enigmas of our time.
So, that completely disproves their whole "We aren't racist! We don't hate anybody! We just want to have pride in our heritage! LOLZ!" argument. If they don't hate (or at least dislike) other races, then why are they so unfriendly towards them? So, let's see...None of the white supremacist ideas can ever be backed up by a real, hard, fact....Their whole movement is based on negative things like hatred and ignorance of other people's cultures....Somebody please tell me why, exactly, these psychos are taken even the least bit seriously. Ugh.....It's so sad that people like them are allowed to breathe the same air as us. "
It's probably the one of the most puzzling enigmas of our time.
It will be interesting to see April Gaede's reaction if and when her kids rebel.
There is hope. Someone pointed out that all but one of Metzger's kids turned on him, as did William Pierce's children.
There is hope. Someone pointed out that all but one of Metzger's kids turned on him, as did William Pierce's children.
Ah well...the Prussian Blue My Space message: Invalid Friend ID.
This user has either cancelled their membership, or their acccount has been deleted.
Gone again!!
This user has either cancelled their membership, or their acccount has been deleted.
Gone again!!
"I guess that means it's time for the WNs to start their WhiteNationalistspace.com."
LMAO.
And the space was deleted due to underage use, myspace claimed.
LMAO.
And the space was deleted due to underage use, myspace claimed.
That's normal for Myspace to deleate accounts. They're under investiagation for having minors on their site. So if they intend on getting a Myspace account, Mama would have to do it, and keep her daughters off the site.
There are MILLIONS of underage users on myspace, my sister for one. I say delete them all for safety precautions.
To Tuoni:
It does, because as you'll see, there is NOBODY that they've added as friends that isn't white.
And also, do people like you REALLY wonder why your "movement" doesn't go anywhere? Because it's built on little or no actual facts or reasons. It's just you guys blabbering like idiots how unfair the world is to you. Case in point: you have nothing to say to me except call me a "moron", and you do not even give reasons for that one. Although, with your IQ, I'm sure all of that has just gone way over your head.
And why are you even here if you kiss up to da poor wittle white wacists so much? This is an ANTI-racism and Prussian Blue site, not a PRO one.
It does, because as you'll see, there is NOBODY that they've added as friends that isn't white.
And also, do people like you REALLY wonder why your "movement" doesn't go anywhere? Because it's built on little or no actual facts or reasons. It's just you guys blabbering like idiots how unfair the world is to you. Case in point: you have nothing to say to me except call me a "moron", and you do not even give reasons for that one. Although, with your IQ, I'm sure all of that has just gone way over your head.
And why are you even here if you kiss up to da poor wittle white wacists so much? This is an ANTI-racism and Prussian Blue site, not a PRO one.
Tuoni.
You are a grown man fighting with a teen on the internet. I hope this makes your penis that much bigger. Secondly, I think you meant to use "myne" and not "mine". In the future, I'd attempt to use proper grammar before calling someone else a moron. I understand that typos happen, but this was no mistake. It was clearly a ignorant response that backfired and resulted in you looking like the ass clown.
Yelena you must know that because of Tuoni's beliefs, his i.q. is considerably lower than most. There is no point in telling him that this is a anti-racism/prussian blue site. I think it is beyond him to grasp the concept.
Aren't most wns like Tuoni homophobes? Why do you have a gay roommate Tuoni? Please tell us, we all want to know. I'm sure April and the girls would like to hear about this too.
You are a grown man fighting with a teen on the internet. I hope this makes your penis that much bigger. Secondly, I think you meant to use "myne" and not "mine". In the future, I'd attempt to use proper grammar before calling someone else a moron. I understand that typos happen, but this was no mistake. It was clearly a ignorant response that backfired and resulted in you looking like the ass clown.
Yelena you must know that because of Tuoni's beliefs, his i.q. is considerably lower than most. There is no point in telling him that this is a anti-racism/prussian blue site. I think it is beyond him to grasp the concept.
Aren't most wns like Tuoni homophobes? Why do you have a gay roommate Tuoni? Please tell us, we all want to know. I'm sure April and the girls would like to hear about this too.
I know that I'm not going to change his mind, but it just amazes me so, the way I'm fourteen (he's 29?) years younger than him, yet he's the one acting immature and resorting to name calling without even bothering to argue his opinion (which he can't, of course, because no WNs have arguments that can't be easily shot down).
I'm sure there will be news soon. Frick & Frack (Mark Neufeldt & April Gaede) have been plastering stormfront asking for links to pictures of the girls. It seems they want to try and sue for using copyrighted pics. LOL!! I hope Steele isn't actually going to try and limit pictures that April plastered all over the 'net. Putting them out in the domain automatically gave consent, so I'm sure they won't get very far except to make fools of themselves. But, what else is new? LOL!!
I understand the girls were supposed to have an interview in another magazine, but the mag folded. They have a pic on their website of the photographer who went out to take some pics of the girls.
I'm sure April will pull some shenanigans real soon. Her twins have been out of the limelight too long...
I understand the girls were supposed to have an interview in another magazine, but the mag folded. They have a pic on their website of the photographer who went out to take some pics of the girls.
I'm sure April will pull some shenanigans real soon. Her twins have been out of the limelight too long...
Hi people,
It's been a while, but I just wanted to inform everyone of the relaunch of the legendary MootStormfront:
www.mootsf.org
Although we're not open for business until Friday, please feel free to register, then post and say hi on the Grand Opening at that time.
Unfortunately, we're not able to restore the old database at this time, so old accounts, posts, and threads will not be presently available. We hope to rectify that situation in the very near future, however.
Best,
Kamandi
It's been a while, but I just wanted to inform everyone of the relaunch of the legendary MootStormfront:
www.mootsf.org
Although we're not open for business until Friday, please feel free to register, then post and say hi on the Grand Opening at that time.
Unfortunately, we're not able to restore the old database at this time, so old accounts, posts, and threads will not be presently available. We hope to rectify that situation in the very near future, however.
Best,
Kamandi
Hey Amethyst23,
Since you are throwing all this slander around, I think it's only
fair that you give us your full name. Can you give it, or are you the coward you appear to be?
Since you are throwing all this slander around, I think it's only
fair that you give us your full name. Can you give it, or are you the coward you appear to be?
It's been a while, but I just wanted to inform everyone of the relaunch of the legendary MootStormfront:
Oh goody goody, the legendary mootstormfront.
I will make sure to wear my fuck america tee shirt and smoke alot of weed when I sign up.
Oh goody goody, the legendary mootstormfront.
I will make sure to wear my fuck america tee shirt and smoke alot of weed when I sign up.
Yelena Dorkus-Maximus said...
Hahaha, I requested those Prussian Cunt-whores to be my myspace-friends (I have a very Jewish myspace).....I can't wait to see if they reply!
Yelena Dorkus-Maximus said...
Aww, they looked at my myspace but didn't add me. :(
So, that completely disproves their whole "We aren't racist! We don't hate anybody! We just want to have pride in our heritage! LOLZ!" argument. If they don't hate (or at least dislike) other races, then why are they so unfriendly towards them? So, let's see...None of the white supremacist ideas can ever be backed up by a real, hard, fact....Their whole movement is based on negative things like hatred and ignorance of other people's cultures....Somebody please tell me why, exactly, these psychos are taken even the least bit seriously. Ugh.....It's so sad that people like them are allowed to breathe the same air as us.
Awww you poor thing.
Those two prussian cunt whores dont like you?
What a shame.
Maybe it is because you are the kind of person who calls two little girls prussian cunt whores?
You know something, you anti racist types are really a hateful bunch.
All you have to do is read all these comments and it becomes plain as day.
The only hate I see on white nationalists sites is coming from you anti racists in their opposing views forums.
Why do you hate?
Hahaha, I requested those Prussian Cunt-whores to be my myspace-friends (I have a very Jewish myspace).....I can't wait to see if they reply!
Yelena Dorkus-Maximus said...
Aww, they looked at my myspace but didn't add me. :(
So, that completely disproves their whole "We aren't racist! We don't hate anybody! We just want to have pride in our heritage! LOLZ!" argument. If they don't hate (or at least dislike) other races, then why are they so unfriendly towards them? So, let's see...None of the white supremacist ideas can ever be backed up by a real, hard, fact....Their whole movement is based on negative things like hatred and ignorance of other people's cultures....Somebody please tell me why, exactly, these psychos are taken even the least bit seriously. Ugh.....It's so sad that people like them are allowed to breathe the same air as us.
Awww you poor thing.
Those two prussian cunt whores dont like you?
What a shame.
Maybe it is because you are the kind of person who calls two little girls prussian cunt whores?
You know something, you anti racist types are really a hateful bunch.
All you have to do is read all these comments and it becomes plain as day.
The only hate I see on white nationalists sites is coming from you anti racists in their opposing views forums.
Why do you hate?
If you've ever wondered what Prussian Blue would look like as Sims, I present to you, for your amusement, PrusSim Blue!
http://prussimblue.blogspot.com/
http://prussimblue.blogspot.com/
Yelena Dorkus-Maximus said ...
Their whole movement is based on negative things like hatred and ignorance of other people's cultures....
Now something hear seems a bit hypocritcal, if you gonna complain about hatred and negative things you prehaps wanna think about your double standards, the only hatred and ignorance i see comes from you, prehaps if you learned to understand their views and why they think like that, maybe equality may be reached, but instead you act like bigots hating them for their views and not listning to their arguments and refering to them as "small brained"
Until the hypocracy of our "liberal" society is address and the double standardsv and pro-discrimation for blacks is stopped, and the muslims actually intergrate with society racism will never be stamped out, and refering to them as stupid, ignorant, bigots etc puts you in the same boat, your are just as prejudice just to blind to see it
Yelena Dorkus-Maximus wrote "It's so sad that people like them are allowed to breathe the same air as us." until you open your eyes to your own prejuces the same feeling are felt about you.
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Their whole movement is based on negative things like hatred and ignorance of other people's cultures....
Now something hear seems a bit hypocritcal, if you gonna complain about hatred and negative things you prehaps wanna think about your double standards, the only hatred and ignorance i see comes from you, prehaps if you learned to understand their views and why they think like that, maybe equality may be reached, but instead you act like bigots hating them for their views and not listning to their arguments and refering to them as "small brained"
Until the hypocracy of our "liberal" society is address and the double standardsv and pro-discrimation for blacks is stopped, and the muslims actually intergrate with society racism will never be stamped out, and refering to them as stupid, ignorant, bigots etc puts you in the same boat, your are just as prejudice just to blind to see it
Yelena Dorkus-Maximus wrote "It's so sad that people like them are allowed to breathe the same air as us." until you open your eyes to your own prejuces the same feeling are felt about you.
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