Friday, November 11, 2005

 

The NY Post Article

First of all, I would very much like to thank 'Fraggle Rock' for bringing this article to my attention. Prussian Blue and their mother are, apparently, seeking more publicity by agreeing to participate in future interviews. Read on and enjoy!
THE teenage white supremacist twins, Lynx and Lamb Gaede, have gone into hiding after their controversial ABC special on Oct. 20 portrayed the blue-eyed Olsen lookalikes as racist ranters. But Teen People, edited by Lori Majewski, has apparently scored an exclusive interview with the controversial duet. The twins have a band called Prussian Blue, are popular at neo-Nazi events and have been praised by one-time Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke. Lamb has been quoted as saying: "Men like Adolf Hitler and Rudolf Hess are our heroes."

It was a battle between the teen magazines, and at least one rival is claiming Teen People is bending some journalistic rules to reel in the 13-year-old twins. It seems Elle Girl, which is edited by Christina Kelly, was originally going to do the story. But at the last minute the girls backed out. Insiders there said they were informed by the twins' mom, April, that the girls were going with Teen People because the Time Inc.-owned monthly had agreed to let them vet the article before it ran. That would be a no-no at Time Inc., which owns Teen People. Objective reporters on mainstream magazines don't surrender editorial control to the subjects they are covering. Teen People's big sister, People, has been in a slugfest on just that topic with the new import OK!, which promises to give celebrities editorial control.

Jeremy Helligar, the deputy editor to Majewski at Teen People, insists that the magazine made no such promise. "Getting the story was a team effort," said Helligar. "We don't give editorial control, but I think people know we stand for fairness and accuracy."

He said that if the magazine was doing a first-person story, it would allow the subjects to have what he called a "readback." Helligar insisted the mag's only promise was "to portray them fairly and accurately."

But the Elle Girl insiders say they called back, and the twins are under the impression they're getting a prior-to-publication review of the article — with a chance to make corrections. The girls' father, Bill Gaede, who uses a swastika as a brand for his cattle, insisted in published reports that they are not spreading hate, but are only exercising their freedom of speech rights. "We must secure the existence of our people and our future for white children," Lamb Gaede told ABC's Cynthia McFadden on "Primetime."

In their recordings, the California-based twins urge: "Aryan man awake, how much more will you take, turn that fear to hate, Aryan man awake." Their appearance on the ABC special triggered widespread criticism. Their Q & A is expected to hit in the February issue of Teen People.

Comments:
I wonder how teenpeople will portray them. They better not glorify that "music" or the idiots that produce it. Usually I am all for freedom of speech....But when it's something as ignorant and stupid as white supremacy, the people trying to spread it deserve to be trashed. I hope TeenPeople gets them to do the interview, then when it's published, doesn't portray them too nicely.
 
I agree. The magazine will certainly get a lot of feedbacks on this segment, for sure. I'll be looking forward to it for my own amusement.

By the way, something's been really bothering me. The twins are now in public school, right? I wonder, what will the twins do when they start learning about US History --> slavery, civil rights, etc.? Will they oppose or what?
 
Don't these girls and their mother realize that the more people that know their stance on racism, the worse off they'll be in life. I pity these two!
 
I thought that they went to a public school in middle school and elementary or something but are now homeschooled...Anyways, I really want to know how they fared in a public school. I know that in every liberal public school I've ever gone to, racism was the worst offense a white person could do, and anything that could be even somewhat racist was considered grounds for violence...How the hell did those two get out alive?
 
The more people that know their stance, the more records they will sell.
Their video "Victory Day" at ifilm.com has 34,445 views, and is rated 3 out of 5 stars, which is pretty good considering all the Jewish Supremacist brainwashed lemmings there are out there, who are automatically going to give them only 1 star for going against the Jewish agenda grain.
 
The 34,445 views are due to the fact that they're a walking freakshow featured on national television.

All of this stuff is comical. The whole demise of the NA was quite amusing. WN's do more damage to themselves than the Joooz ever could!
 
Marsden said...

Why would these teen magazines want to interview them?


Because they are perfect role models for the youth of our society.
 
No Byronio, they are interviewing them because controversy sells copies. Whatever one might think of PB, its an eye-catching story. People are watching this the way they would watch a train wreck.

I sincderely doubt that the story will be flattering-- if it is a Q&A story I think it is more likely that April and the girls will simply hang themselves with their own words.
 
April Gaede will lose custody of her daughters. Under the circumstances the judge should rule an a quick trial so the kids won't be damaged anymore by their hateful mother.
 
The girls were enrolled in public school in Bakersfield, California for a short period of time in middle school (late 2004 and early 2005). The middle school had a mostly white enrollment, and they were popular due to the fact that they had released a little-known album.

The girls started receiving threats once their views became public knowledge. Also, April was angry when she spotted them dancing to a rap song during cheerleader practice. The twins were subsequently yanked out of public school after only a few short, pitiful months.

On the positive side, Lynx was awarded with the accolade of '7th grade princess', whereas Lamb won the 7th grade history award.
 
Their stepdad, Mark, was a public school teacher in Bakersfield as well as an unapologetic neo-Nazi. It wouldn't surprise me if their history teacher secretly sympathized with their warped views.
 
After all, North Bakersfield and Oildale are known quite well for the racial intolerance of their mostly working-class residents.
 
What was the name of their school?

I would love nothing more than to force those two into my Bay Area liberal high school...You know, just as an experiment, just to see how painful their experience is.
 
They attended public school in the Fruitvale School District in . By process of elimination, I am quite sure you could track down the exact middle school.
http://www.fruitvale.k12.ca.us/district/
 
Hmmm...Fruitvale Jr. High is the only middle school listed.
 
From what I understand, the 7th grade history class was strictly regurgitating back information in the form of worksheets. There were no essays or anywhere where she needed to actually think.
 
There you go, Yelena. Process of elimination can be quite a splendid thing.
 
Hmmmm...that school district doesn't sound like the one I heard they attended. Maybe the boundries have changed.
 
Amethyst23 said...
Their stepdad, Mark, was a public school teacher in Bakersfield as well as an unapologetic neo-Nazi. It wouldn't surprise me if their history teacher secretly sympathized with their warped views.


According to the Jewish Supremacist organization the "ADL", Kevin Strom was recruited into the movement by a high schol teacher.

Hmmm..Maybe some of these teachers actually have a conscience.

It must be hard having to perpetuate a lie and teach the Jewish Supremacist version of history in order to keep your job, yet inside you know the truth, and are sympathetic to students who know the truth as well.
 
Byronio, would you like to amuse me and answer a burning question of mine?

I'm fifteen. Female. Half-Jewish on my dad's side. Wasn't raised with much Jewish identity, but still proud of my heritage. What about me is so threatening to you? Why would you hate me just because of my genes?
 
"Byronio, would you like to amuse me and answer a burning question of mine?

I'm fifteen. Female. Half-Jewish on my dad's side. Wasn't raised with much Jewish identity, but still proud of my heritage. What about me is so threatening to you? Why would you hate me just because of my genes?"


I'd like to hear byronio's answer of that as well.
 
You mean, the JDL?

HAHAHAHA.
 
"Because they are perfect role models for the youth of our society."

What youth did you have in mind?

Should more teenagers sing songs about skinheads and then go on national televison to talk about it?

After all we know about 'sundown towns' and Jim Crow, why would people suddenly say to themselves: "Oh, you know what? These guys were right all along! Let's get these people from the NA that can't even run a small organization to take charge of everything!"
 
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Because they are perfect role models for the youth of our society
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That comment scares me. How these two could be considered as role-models is beyond me! When this interview/article/whatever comes out, I imagine that the Gaede clan will have lots of death threats on their hands. Poor creatures!
 
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Yeah, and I heard one of those threats was that black men would rape them. But I'm guessing some of the threats are going to be more severe. Ouch.

Oh, I read a document on how some blue collar Americans are slipping into poverty, and that this was what WN's were waiting for. A member even said that the twins will reel in those men ranging from 15-25 yrs. to join the NA. Funny, do the WN's laugh at their brethren's conditions and use them to their advantage or what? Sounds to me they're using the twins too. Hm, how strange.
 
"Oh, I read a document on how some blue collar Americans are slipping into poverty, and that this was what WN's were waiting for."

It wouldn't surprise me. The popularity of rap really bothers them because it cuts them off from a lot of potential recruits.

A lot of people join hate groups because they were raped in prison, or they live in fear of it. Being in the NA or the NV is a dirty job, but I guess they figure someone has to do it.
 
Byronio:

So, I am supposed to hate myself and be ashamed of my background, even though I didn't choose it, just because it isn't "pure" enough for you? Just as you have a right to be proud of your background, I have a right to be proud of mine, and so does everybody.

If somebody wants to show pride in the fact that they are white, I have nothing against that. But when it comes with putting down other races, that's just stupid.

Our genes mean nothing. Albert Einstein was "polluted", as you would call him. He was still way smarter and wiser than any "pure" Hitler.
 
Ummm, yelena. The WN don't think much good about Einstein. The story I've seen is they think he was a major plagiarist who never came up with a single idea of his own. Of course, nothing was ever invented by anyone other than whites, ya know? ;-)
 
You know what WNs, and pretty much any racists, remind me of? Those annoying, stupid, prissy girls in elementary and middle school, the ones who will pick on anyone who doesn't act/dress exactly like them, and use retard logic to justify it. The kids that are pussy enough to fear anybody not exactly like them. I hate people like that.
 
"Byronio said...
Marsden said...

Why would these teen magazines want to interview them?

Because they are perfect role models for the youth of our society."

No, you WN moron, its for the money and ratings you stupid idiot.
 
"You say you are proud of your heritage, yet your heritage has already been polluted with race-mixing itself."

You don't seem to understand genetics, what a race is, or what qualifies as science. Here's a little something to read:

Distinctions prove to be skin deep
Charles Petit, Chronicle Science Writer
The San Francisco Chronicle Monday, February 23, 1998

..."The concept of race is a social and cultural construction. . . . Race simply cannot be tested or proven scientifically," according to a policy statement by the American Anthropological Association. "It is clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. The concept of 'race' has no validity . . . in the human species." ...

..."We don't even come close to having enough genetic diversity for races, or subspecies -- not close," said Robert Sussman, an anthropologist at Washington University in St. Louis and editor of a newsletter of the anthropological association that has taken on race and racism as its yearlong theme.

One reason race is a myth, the great majority of anthropologists agree, is that there has not been enough time for much difference to build up between human beings. By most measures, modern humans arose in Africa less than 200,000 years ago, a short time by evolutionary time scales. And the migration out of Africa by the ancestors of today's Europeans, Asians, and North and South Americans took place less than 100,000 years ago.

Environmental pressure produced different physical appearances, including slightly different physiques, and Africa has the most human genetic diversity of any continent.

"But the environment, literally, works only on the surface, changing skin and hair a little bit," said Luigi Cavalli-Sforza, a Stanford University geneticist."Underneath, there has been little change." ...

...Teaching that racial categories lack biological validity can be as much of a challenge as teaching in the 17th century that the Earth goes around the sun," said Marks.
 
"You support a multiracial society, just like the rest of the Jews. It's in your genes to do so.

You say you are proud of your heritage, yet your heritage has already been polluted with race-mixing itself."

Oh. My. God. You are out of your fucking mind. Seriously, I want to know something. I want to know just what one has to smoke and how much of it in order to believe that.
 
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I think byronio's real enemy is multiracialism, nothing else. And maybe, according to him, tying the Jews along with the subject can give it a little kick or support. Bah.
 
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The idea of race being a social construct is insane.

I'll even go so far as to admit that maybe it's possible that all races of people descended from the same ancestors, but even if that's true there was a branching off at some point, and different races emerged developing differing characteristics.

A trained person can distinguish race just from a skeleton, or even a single bone.
 
Ugh, I don't think I'll ever understand white nationalists. You say that just because I am half Jewish, that I support the destruction of your race, but that isn't true at all. I don't care who you breed with - if you want it to be a white person, go ahead, I wouldn't call that racist. But you can still be nice to and get along with people who don't look exactly like you.
 
Byronio, the problem here is that there are many other ways to classify 'races'-- ones which would give us very different results:

RACE WITHOUT COLOR
Jared Diamond
Discover Magazine
November 1994

"Basing race on body chemistry makes no more sense than basing race on appearance--but at least you get to move the membership around.

Science often violates simple common sense. Our eyes tell us that the Earth is flat, that the sun revolves around the Earth, and that we humans are not animals. But we now ignore that evidence of our senses. We have learned that our planet is in fact round and revolves around the sun, and that humans are slightly modified chimpanzees. The reality of human races is another commonsense "truth" destined to follow the flat Earth into oblivion.

The commonsense view of races goes somewhat as follows. All native Swedes differ from all native Nigerians in appearance: there is no Swede whom you would mistake for a Nigerian, and vice versa. Swedes have lighter skin than Nigerians do. They also generally have blond or light brown hair, while Nigerians have very dark hair. Nigerians usually have more tightly coiled hair than Swedes do, dark eyes as opposed to eyes that are blue or gray, and fuller lips and broader noses.

In addition, other Europeans look much more like Swedes than like Nigerians, while other peoples of sub-Saharan Africa--except perhaps the Khoisan peoples of southern Africa--look much more like Nigerians than like Swedes.

Yes, skin color does get darker in Europe toward the Mediterranean, but it is still lighter than the skin of sub-Saharan Africans. In Europe, very dark or curly hair becomes more common outside Scandinavia, but European hair is still not as tightly coiled as in Africa. Since it's easy then to distinguish almost any native European from any native sub-Saharan African, we recognize Europeans and sub-Saharan Africans as distinct races, which we name for their skin colors: whites and blacks, respectively.

What could be more objective?

As it turns out, this seemingly unassailable reasoning is not objective.

There are many different, equally valid procedures for defining races, and those different procedures yield very different classifications. One such procedure would group Italians and Greeks with most African blacks. It would classify Xhosas--the South African "black" group to which President Nelson Mandela belongs--with Swedes rather than Nigerians. Another equally valid procedure would place Swedes with Fulani (a Nigerian "black" group) and not with Italians, who would again be grouped with most other African blacks.
Still another procedure would keep Swedes and Italians separate from all African blacks but would throw the Swedes and Italians into the same race as New Guineans and American Indians. Faced with such differing classifications, many anthropologists today conclude that one cannot recognize any human races at all."

It gets worse when you try to classify people according to traits that are extremely variable among individuals to whole groups, such as when you said in another post: "It's in your genes to do so." That's the socially constructed part. When you live in a racist culture, it might shape the way you see reality and you might think these things are true, but they won't stand up to scientific scrutiny.
 
Byronio, the problem here is that there are many other ways to classify 'races'-- ones which would give us very different results:

Indeed there are other ways...but those other ways are meaningless, as Proff. Rushton explains. The concept of "race" deals with a meaningful classification of ancestry and human differences.

http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/stalkers/jpr_ggs.html

http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/stalkers/jpr01.html
 
Still another procedure would keep Swedes and Italians separate from all African blacks but would throw the Swedes and Italians into the same race as New Guineans and American Indians. Faced with such differing classifications, many anthropologists today conclude that one cannot recognize any human races at all."

That is precisely why scientists have come up with rational social grouping for race in relation to their biological differences and how those "races" choose to define themselves.

This has been explained more fully before by people more articulate than me. The whole point of classification is to serve a useful purpose.
 
How meaningful is it, though? If the differences between individuals is greater with IQ scores, then wouldn't these be more meaningful than looking at the mean score of a group?

That first article was a bit odd. I'm surprised that someone would still think that measuring people's head's would come up with any meaningful results. The correlation could be +1 and that still wouldn't prove that race is the cause, or even the strongest determining factor of someone's IQ. What about the Flynn Effect? Furthermore, scientists point to the lateral prefrontal cortex as the 'site of IQ'.
 
That part in the first article about "a strong positive correlation (.44) between brain size and IQ" is misleading -- .44 is a less than moderate correlation.

There is, however, a correlation between violent crime and ice cream sales. Does eating ice cream cause violent crime? No, it's probably the hot weather having an influence here.
 
There's also a correlation between Eagle Scouthood and serial killing - a disproportionately high number of apprehended serial killers were Eagle Scouts, including John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer - but that doesn't mean one causes the other.

And the .44 figure is high - the most reliable estimate is around .35. In other words, given that the best and most recent data, the NAESP math section, indicates that the Black-White testing gap has narrowed to about 10 points, only around 12% of the variation could possibly be explained by brain size differences - a little over one point.

Besides, Rushton's use of brain data is well-known to be bogus when applied to racial variation. Just to begin with, the formula he uses to measure cranial capacity - the German formula - is commonly understood to be inaccurate for African head shapes, which are typically less spherical than European craniums.

People in colder climates usually evolve spherical skull shapes to keep body heat from radiating away in that environment.

When you apply the Ainu forumula for dolichocephalic
skull shapes more common for African Americans, the differential virtually disappears.

That's a good example of why Rushton is a racially-motivated hack.
 
Did anybody else catch that the article says Bill Gaede is the girls' father? I guess it's not all that important, but I thought it was funny how it was talking about portraying them fairly and accurately, yet it made that error.

Ok, sodding off now.
 
Yeah, I've noticed a lot of the media have said that. In fact, almost all of the overseas stories said Bill was their father. There must have been a single wire story that everyone was pulling from that had the mistake.

Besides, the NY Post article, what you read on this site, didn't say that they were going to portray them fairly. Teen People, who are going to do the story, did.
 
There was a recent article in Australia's The Sunday Mail which reports that the twins are going to tour Australia:

http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17222375%255E903,00.html

But April says that this is a lie:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2350995#post2350995
 
And we are supposed to believe April because...??? I'm sure if the rest of the article praised her girls that she would be singing another story. However, the Aussies don't want their white butts the same as we don't want them!
 
I can't think of any reason the girls would say that if it weren't true.
 
I came across another article from the UK's Daily Mirror which quotes the girls talking about the Auschwitz swimming pool, among other things: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16307899&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=hitler-is-our-hero--name_page.html.

Does anyone know the source of these quotes? They don't appear anywhere else online and the Mirror doesn't say they interviewed the girls themselves. Also, some of the other quotes in the article are clearly taken from the Primetime interview. I don't really want to side with April on this matter (or on anything else), but tabloids have been known to make things up.
 
The reporter byline is for Ryan Parry. He moved to the States last spring. He's the reporter who was able to get a job in Buckingham Palace with fake credentials prior to Bush's stay there in 2003. That sounds like the type reporter April would let into her house. Besides, if she hadn't OKed the story, I'm sure we would have heard about it by now! The story is over 2 weeks old!
 
After all, North Bakersfield and Oildale are known quite well for the racial intolerance of their mostly working-class residents.

I know, working class people are so inteollerant.

They think, their so big just because they work and make monney.

HAh!!!

All, we tolerant ones have to do, is sit back, relax, and let, them do the work.

Who's smarter eh??
 
The Inside Edition story from 11/21/05. Does anyone know how to save this?

http://www.zippyvideos.com/1532297772349706/no2105ie/
 
http://wcbstv.com/entertainment/local_story_325181924.html
 
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=57137

Time,Inc cancelled the Teen People story! Teen People have now also taken down the website with the girl's pictures on it! Hooray!!
 
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Boo. I kind of wanted them to do the interview so that the Gaede twats, er sorry, twins would make arses of themselves in front of millions of people. Again.
 
Awesome.

I wonder how April Gaede feels.
 
Oh yeah... read this:

http://prussianbluefan.blogspot.com

Seems like the twins' album is now out. "White Nationalists Next Top Models?" LOL.
 
"Oh yeah... read this:

http://prussianbluefan.blogspot.com

Seems like the twins' album is now out."

Quick! Buy one or two or ten before they're all sold out! You know you've always wanted to hear two tone-deaf airheads croon repetitive two-note melodies about Nazis, acne-ridden preteen skinheads and genocide.
 
1. Lamb (I think that's the one, the one on top?) looks fucking disgusting. Her face looks bloated, and she looks as if she is holding her breath. Lynx's smile looks way too fake, like she's actually in a lot of physical pain and is gritting her teeth, and I've seen her do the same one in way too many pictures.

2."The path we chose"? What kind of lame-ass CD title is that? You DIDN'T fucking choose that path. Your fat and ugly mother did, and you two are just too stupid to think for yourselves and form your OWN opinions.

3. The sole reason for the Gaede's success is their gimmick, and it's awfully sad that the kind of terrible, insipid gimmick that they have can actually give them some success. The things required nowadays for success in the pop music world - looks, the ability to carry a note, and the ability to at least decently play the instruments that you are supposed to play - the Gaedes do not possess.
 
Can someone answer this?

Do WN's wear/buy things made from non-white countries?

It's a question that's bugging me.
 
How could they not? The hausfraus will need to take up knitting while they're stuck at home barefoot and pregnant.

More importantly, as a guy called The Nog points out elsewhere, why aren't they playing Polka music instead of African-American influenced Rock music?
 
More importantly, as a guy called The Nog points out elsewhere, why aren't they playing Polka music instead of African-American influenced Rock music?

ummm because if they new that Rock music was influenced by the African American race they'd try to claim that it was a white man that started it, and the African American's stole it from them. Plus they'd just say that Polka music just isn't that darn cool

I personally think that with the girls entering their teens now, Mama Hell Cat is about to get a rude wake up call. The teen years are the hardest and they will eventually wake up and realize... Mom isn't always right.
 
Is an aversion to "race mixing" really mean pro-inbreeding? Because from some of the comments here, it kind of sounds like it is.
 
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