Saturday, June 04, 2005

 

New Pro-Prussian Blue Site

Another dear reader informed me of the existence of a newer pro-Prussian Blue site. You may read up on Prussian Blue at this other website; however, it's not nearly as informative as the Prussian Blue Sucks blog. The "white racialist" world should feel much pride toward Lynx and Lamb. The "white nationalist" world can expect a second Prussian Blue album that will be sure to sweep the "movement" like the 2004 tsunami. Why in the hell did I mention the damned tsunami? That's quite self-explanatory.

Comments:
Well, if Prussian Blue's badness causes people to leave the movement...
 
Its interesting that they reference this blog. Hard to ignore, eh? Me thinks somebody is protesting too much.

:-)
 
I though I might attempt to point this out, though it's probably useless, Bigotry, is a subjective thing, or must be for our purposes if we are to believe in objective truth.

Again the real contradiction were given from your side not mine.(1) Firstly, you did stereotype Whites in general because you see White people in racial terms, whether you admit it or not. WN being your opponent, unawakened Whites being mere slave scum to be easily manipulated. (2) When someone says that "race" does not exist he is not being poetic he is saying in plain English English that "race does not exist. If your side were being honest from the beginning you would simply say that "race" is the wrong word, the colloquial word, not the scientific.
(Or if you want to say that race has no basis in biology and is merely a social construct you might try saying just that)

But when people say that "race" does not "exist" they are saying that "race" does not exist, a deliberate deception. This is why it is really the Tim Wise's who are ignorant and scared of the population differences that scientific
research shows and not the Michael Levin's, Jared Taylor's and KAS's of the world.
 
1. No, don't attempt to hold me to YOUR values Nick, I don't not see White people in racial terms I see people as individuals, political organizations as political organizations and ideologues as simply that, ideologues. If I were to generalize common beliefs of Black Separatists, I would not simply be generalizing the entire race by doing so. You are the one who did that not me, whether you'd like to admit it or not. I most certainly do not see non-racists White people as slave scum, that is a White Nationalist belief. Again, your hateful beliefs are your own, don't attempt to tell me how I think and what I think of certain people. I'll tell YOU what I think. I don't think less of anyone because of their race. Can you honestly say the same?

2. Read this http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/first/brace.html

White Nationalists seem to get huffy when we generalize their beliefs yet try to insist their opposition beliefs the same thing. Your reference to non-racist Whites being brainwashed slave scum is evidence of this. I do not fully agree with Tim Wise if he insists that there is no such thing as Race period. Race exists as a social and mental construct. I do not belief in putting racial categories in quotes in speech as I regard them as subjective by default; it is when we try to define something or someone as objectively racial that I use quotations. You will find on MootStormfront that in several threads White Nationalists really don't seem to understand the mainstream anti-racist view point on Race. Go to the thread about Kennewick Man and seem myself and others saying the same thing.


Also if you are going to continue conversations you should do it in the same comment box. You are commenting to my reply in a different story, I could have easily over looked this story’s comments and never knew you were addressing me. Each Blog post has its own comments box.
 
Yes I can honestly say the same, or would until I learned the truth.

And by the way I've got a good close look that your "non-white" individuals. Yup, a very close look, when your grandmother is gangraped by some you don't tend to forget it. Stereotype?

By the way, WN really do understand the mainstream "non-racist" view which really is the real "racist" view.

You really are quite tiresome with your silly "indivdual" verses "group" talk. I think most people see threw it. For heavens sake, groups are made up of individuals and when a majority of those "individual" are involved in something wrong such as anti-White discrimination you have a majority. Stereotype?

Yes I did take the time to read your silly link, its nothing I haven't read before, I have also read James C. Chatters book Ancient Encounters and it is quite obvious how he is trying to please everyone, rather than simply state the hard truth, though it may get you into trouble.

The more you continue with your pompous silly lies the more White people will become awakened and enraged. Note I'm not the only teenager out there that is studing this stuff and doing presentations at school, on the unbiased nature of racial profiling. Recently I have conversed with several other teens from Britain who have understood the same.

By the by I don't suppose the fact that admire Michael Levin or do indeed have "some" non-white "friends" mean anything.

The biased racist nature of the "non-racists" is easily demonstrated in confrontations at school. Just last month I was forced to listen to lecture from a visiting law teacher about the poor persecuted aboriginals, arrested and disproportionate rates. Oh, yes, that must be White peoples fault right. Well, during question period I stood up and told the truth. Gasps!!!

Then I said, look I'm a status Indian.

More Gasps!!!!!

How dare I.

Our pretty blonde teacher had clearly been deluded on the subject but she was really quite surprised to find someone in this freaking world who might say different. Come now, you have excellant grades she said, how could you believe what those inferior "neo=nazi" beleive.

Because it's the truth, I said, "Your own house has been broken into be Aboriginals several times and you still stupidly excuse them for everything they do saying, that its the "racist" Whites that make them do it."

Yup, alot of Whites were shocked but its not as if they could complain when I can use the race card against the multiculturalists quite effectively.

A word of advice...stop playing games...stop telling lies... and for heavens sake stop feeling so threatened by a pair of beautiful 14 year old girls.
 
"through"
 
"studying"
"havn't"
 
A word of advice...stop playing games...stop telling lies... and for heavens sake stop feeling so threatened by a pair of beautiful 14 year old girls.


I don't know who this was directed at but I really don't care about Prussian Blue. In the scheme of things you'd have to go directly to Something Awful.com for any chance to find them without searching the net for race related issues. Noone should be threatened by Prussian Blue, they are an obscure little band. When they are on MTV giving interviews and teaching their indoctrinated beliefs then perhaps there becomes cause for concern.

I don't know who you are telling to stop playing games and telling lies either. You seem to through around the word "truth" and "lies" a bit too much without clarifying what the truth is and what the lie is. Your Fox Mulder rhetoric is getting about as tiresome as this conversation, you've thrown out far too many random thoughts for coherent discussion. Your Grandmother was gang raped? You gave a speech about Aboriginals in class? You defended supposed bigoted statements with claiming to be a status Indian? The class gasped? This thought process is far too incoherent, perhaps you can tell us more about these stories on MSF, I'd be interested in hearing how you play the race card against multiculturalists in proper threads for this type of discussion along with what got you into this Neo-Nazi mindset in the first place. To put it plainly alot of what you say may be valid to an extent but right now it is far too incoherent, you are rambling. Come to our board whenever your school year ends or whenever you said it you'd, it should be interesting. These blog comments amount to little more than clutter, they really aren't designed for this type of discussion but rather saying what you think about the article your commenting to and maybe flaming other users back and fourth. That’s all I see in every blog comment box. Check out a few of the ones I visited to see how far "intellectual discussion" gets carried.


http://whitenationalism.blogspot.com/

http://eyzwydopensblog.blogspot.com/

http://whiteisgreat.blogspot.com/
 
"These blog comments amount to little more than clutter, they really aren't designed for this type of discussion but rather saying what you think about the article your commenting to and maybe flaming other users back and fourth."

I agree. These comments are not as good as a discussian board. If I hadn't deleted all my frickin' posts ot of my other blog (I thought i could get them back, DUH ME!) I would say you missed a blog.
 
Yes, your probably right Tuoni, I do get carried away, but you have to understand that these hatefilled multiculties really do frustrate me on a personal level. I'll try not talk so much.
 
to Mansa Musa, the phony Arab traveler

I kinda like my mindset thankyou.

And about the race-card bit, just a hint, White people should not feel obligated to "make friends" with non-whites or hybrids.

The world does not spin on the happiness of non-whites.
 
Well Nicolas de la Mare, the Irish Enslaved children's poet, whatever floats your boat, I'm not here to convert people from their bigotry, if they are that content with it I leave them to that, its the propaganda I wish to debunk, that much will not hold up to public scrutiny.



You may not like what we have to say but don't think for a second that your side doesn't frustrate us more than you feel we frustrate you. I think I for one have been more than polite and fair with the bulk of "White Nationalists" many of who attempt to degrade us on a daily basis, spit on my heritage and people to make themselves feel better and constantly chastise us all when they get frustrated with debate. You'll notice Ezwydopen closed his comments pages after making a lenghty post to me full of questions, under the guise that he told me off. Look at Viedoves degenarate into a manical facist after trying to counter me with abstract reasoning.



Its clear that the bulk of these people just want to sit around and hate amongst themselves, its only the teenage WNs who feel they are self righteious enough to combat the evil multiculturalist, few Adults bother, some bring respectable arguments but most a far too bitter to engage in lengty debate when they know they are wrong.they'd rather delude themselves into a reasoning of rightiousness noone understands but them.
 
Excuse me, I should have called you the Jelly Bellied Children's poet. St. Patrick was the one enslaved by Irish not St. Nick.
 
I wouldn't speak of the older generation so.

As a matter of interest, what exactly is your heritage?

...I havn't seen you mention it, so I can't see how anyone could have trampled upon it. Anyhow, your an individual case, we are concerned with the massive evil anti-White hatred, and this is not one-man's-battle.

Anyway, I'm glad you at least know the difference between St. Patrick and jolly old St. Nick.
 
By the by Blacks have no problem "objectively" defining who is Black and who isn't. Why would us evil-blue-eyed demons have any trouble?
 
I'm an African-American, that should tell you enough about who I am and what heritage is being constantly denigrated by these Neo-Nazi bigots.



I disagree with you about the fight against anti-White hatred which in American society is virtually confined to double standards, its not a crisis of interest its just a scapegoat to perpetuate racist beliefs. This is the saddest excuse for supporting White Nationalism I know of. That and White guilt.


Who set the racist standard to give the oppurtunity for racist double standards to be created in the first place? White Nationalists and their predeccessors. Who caused White guilt? WN and their predecessors. Thats no excuse to be a WN, if someone is stereotyping African-Americans as saying we're all a bunch of drug dealers and rapists, creating Black guilt, should I go out and become a drug dealer and rapist because of their bigotry? No, there is no ZOG conspiracy to oppress the White Race, an ethnic group knows when it is being discriminated against they don't need a fringe group like the National Alliance to "wake them up", if White people were really being discriminated against on such a massive scale they would have rallied together.



They behave like the Civil Rights leaders of the 50's and 60's. Or the Indians engaging in civil disobedience lead by Gandhi. Or the Muslim "freedom fighters" in Israel. Surely, they'd band together as a group to fight this massive discrimination.



I'm not saying racist double standards against White people do not exist, they surely do and people know they do, I'm saying that it is a farce to perpetuate the belief in some form of mass oppression which does not exist.
 
By the by Blacks have no problem "objectively" defining who is Black and who isn't. Why would us evil-blue-eyed demons have any trouble?

Actually we do. Race is subjectively defined by.

1. Self-Identity

2. How society views you


Tiger Woods is viewed by the media as Black, but he denounces conforming to any racial category since he is a vast mixture of ethnicities. He fits 2 but denies 1. Ask most people they'll tell you he is Black. Ask him he'll give you some justifiable lengthy explanation why he is not. Subjective.

Vin Diesel is the same. He doesn't like defining himself by race, he is a mixture of things. His Dad is at least half-Black. He's been featured on the cover of BET Magazine. He doesn't all out denounce his Blackness but merely refuses to elaborate on self identity. The media don't really try to label him as Black. His Blackness isn't defined by 1 or 2 its just a big question mark.


Mariah Carey embraces her biracial heritage. Most honest people would say she is White on appearance, I myself would certainly not think she was part Black if I didn’t know beforehand. She isn't objectively Black. Millions of White Americans have Black ancestry because mixed race Mullatos and Quadroons, Light-Skinned Blacks with Mariah's complexion were what is called "passing" for White and they mixed with White people to bring about Modern day descendants who look no different than other White people. It is subjective.

You may argue that mixed race hybrids are just complications and exceptions but we are all mixed race somewhere in our genealogy. You say for instance that you are a status Indian, yet still White. I'm a status Indian, 1/8 Cherokee which by Cherokee law makes me one of them yet I am considered to be an African-American. And, on Stormfront depending on how far back your Native American blood goes back depends on their acceptance of you. One of our MSF opponents is infamous for being kicked out of Stormfront IRC because he was 1/8 Native, he and others were forced to change their handle to mutt. He has since denounced White Nationalism, changed his avatar to the symbol of MixedFolks.com and considers himself banished from the White Race altogether.

But, completely aside from mixed race people there is the question of who else is Black. Some Blacks try to extend Blackness to the Dravidians of India, the Negritos of South East Asia and the Aboriginals of Australia. Some of those people accept the label Black and some do not. Just as some Indians accept the Aryan Invasion Theory and others have never heard of it. There are many people who are phenotypically "Negroid" who are not considered to be of the Black Race. Black is just as subjective as White, as is every other racial category. Race has proven time and again to be a social construct both through scientific research such as the fact that there are more differences between individual people than between racial groups and our inability to define objective labels for race. Can you even list every race? I have a thread on MSF challenging everyone to list the races and they have failed to do so. THEY CAN'T EVEN LIST EVERY RACE. And even if they could all people must fit in one box or another. You can't just have a bunch of concrete racial categories and then label certain people as "hybrid, "mixed race" or "mongrel". Everyone is mixed somewhere down the line. A biracial person isn’t just 50% this and 50% that their parents are mixed somewhere too. The big question is where do you draw the line? Think about that question Nick...think about that....
 
You don't have any problem deciding which people to extort money from when it comes to slavery reparations. I think all our subjectivity is based on something deep inside that is quite objective to all.
 
I've never asked for slave reparations stop generalizing. Most Black people don't care about reparations like your racist fuhrer would like you to blieve but many would appreciate a formal recognition of wrong doing by the government.


If ZOG really is large and incharge where are the reparations? Where's my 40 acres and a mule? Surely the evil ZOG could get the Black Race its reparations and get away with giving reparations themselves for Jewish involvement in slavery. I mean they are JOOOOZ. They can fake mass genocide and brainwash billions of people against their "natural instincts", surely if reparations for slavery were so simple that they could give them they would have been given by now.


The largest extent that I'd see reparations being acceptable is if the companies indentified as benefiting the most from slavery would turn over some money to aid the ghettos where historically disenfranshised Blacks congregated. Every person of Black ancestry does not need reparations, the people who were actually enslaved are already dead.



You're just nitpicking, I have undercut your argument on the objectivity of any racial classification, lets dispense with the sarcasm and non sequiturs.
 
"Yes, your probably right Tuoni, I do get carried away, but you have to understand that these hatefilled multiculties really do frustrate me on a personal level. I'll try not talk so much. "

Nick, that post was directed to Mansa. :) Talk all you want you are doing fine.
 
Well here is your blog as well Tuoni.

http://swanoftuonela.blogspot.com/

I should not have overlooked it you are a far more gratious guest than Eyzeydopen, who closed comments in his blog. I even wrote a legnthy post to him without realizing he closedthe blog. Oh well, I saved it for later use.....whatever use that may be.
 
Thank you for the compliment. Although I noticed you called me a coward at MSF. :)

Last I checked thats one thing I'm not.
 
When did I do that?
 
Well... ok.. you called all the WNs at the PBGB cowards and I *am* one of them.
 
You'll have to quote me I only recall calling PlayFair a coward. Neither April nor Eyzwydopen banned me in the middle of discussion.
 
"I made a thread for them to say their peace, and they ignored it like the cowards they are even though they routinely view this website, at least one of them is registered here (WildLlama) and if they wanted to say their peace they could have sent whatever evidence they had to him."

I did in these sentences state that "they" were cowards, I meant the ones supposedly withholding evidence against Yama and even mentioned your MSF screenname aside from them as a registered member they could have fed information to fight the good fight for them. Dopen and PlayFair have on several occasions emailed back and fourth between Rasputin and other Stormfronters evidence they want represented against agruments such as Holocaust denial. much the same way a user on Stormfront made an idiot of WhiteResistance14 by feeding a friends responses to WR14's post. They could have done that, but instead decided to ignore it thus making them cowards. They use Prussian Blue as a weapon against anti-racists rather than initiate open debates with them. Cowards.....Cowards.......
 
So if you don't consider me a coward, where do I stand on your view of WNs? Just curious.
 
confused.
 
"confused"

I guess I can't complain since thats the way I feel about many of you. :)
 
I feel that stressing racial difference undermines human potential and that society needs to stay progressive in order to thrive in all ways. Progressive doesn't mean politically left wing necessarily but I believe I have studied WN long enought to see through it.


I can only imagine what life must have been like for people living under these ideas in the past, I don't want to ever see it happen again. Every time notions of inferiority have come up someone has excelled to shatter the myth of what ever their inferior potential was percieved to be and I see no reason why this trend will not continue. I see very few if any redeemable qualities in White Nationalist philosophy and will not look at words on the internet from its benefactors with any less disdain than I do a man in a sheet and hood or a man with a shaved head and swastika. White Nationalist ideology? I do not accept this ideology. To it I will always say, No.
 
"a man with a shaved head and swastika."

OK, I shave my head (not a skindhead, I just don't like my hair)

I am an Asatruar. (Swastika is a peaceful symbol in my religion, despite the way many use it)

Would you show disdain to me if I showed up wearing my swastika pendant?

I want to know how far you take it, whether you are bigoted towards my religion or not.
 
You know good and well that was a figure of speech, I was referring specifically to Neo-Nazi Skinheads. You can thank Hitler for the desecration of the Swatika's image, bigotry has nothing to do with it. The burning cross wasn't a racist symbol either but would a person be a cultural bigot for grimacing at a burning cross on someone's shirt?

I had a friend who used to where a pentagram because he was getting into Wicca among other things and everyone accused him of being a satanist even though he explained the difference between standard and inverted pentagrams.


Its not that these people were bigots but they were symbol illiterate. I'm not a symbol expert but I'm far from symbol illiterate. I'd look more disdainly upon a known racist wearing an Anime shirt than someone wearing a non-standard swastika. How do you come to adopt the Asatru religion anyway?
 
Symbols are participatory, Tuonela. You can't use religion as an excuse for ignoring history. If you are not happy about the desecration of the swastika, you can blame the Nazis. It was their idea.

Asatru rejects racism by the way. Always has.
 
FYI:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/asatru.htm

The Money quote:

Corruption of Asatru:

It is not unknown for otherwise decent religions to become corrupted by incorporating racist, sexist, anti-semitic, and homophobic beliefs. For example:

The Christian Identity movement is one wing of the Christian religion which has adsorbed such beliefs.

During the early part of the 20th Century, The National Socialist Party in Germany under Adolf Hitler attempted to pervert Asatru by grafting parts of the religion onto the Nazi racist beliefs. This blasphemy died by the end of World War II, although some neo-Nazi groups -- largely in the U.S. -- are now attempting to continue the practice.

This type of activity is in no way related to the restoration of Asatru as a legitimate Heathen religion. There is a very strong anti-racist, anti-Nazi stance among national Asatru groups in the Scandinavian countries. This is also found in almost all Asatru groups in English speaking countries. They typically have a clear rejection of racism written into their constitutions.
 
Modern Heathens and Neo-Pagans as a group are pretty tolerant, but bigots are generally NOT on the acceptable list. As a result many Asatru spend a lot of time distancing themselves from the "racially aware" types. Here is what Raven Online, the source of all things Asatru, has to say about the WN perversions of their religion:

"Race and Asatru
I find it abhorrent that I must add this section, but I recently discovered that this page was being indexed on some white supremacist and neo-nazi pages. It seems that I must make a public statement on this distasteful subject.

It has been the sad fate of Asatru to have had our faith highjacked by some subhuman maggots who are trying to hitch their sick and twisted political wagon to our faith.

It is the position of The Raven Kindred, Asatru Today, myself personally, and all legitimate Asatruar that race and ethnicity are completely irrelevant to Asatru and Norse Paganism.

Asatru is a religion. It is open to anyone who wishes to join it. Those persons who would limit its membership on the basis of race, sex, sexual preference, or other such criteria are not only mentally challenged, but are traitors to the Gods. If the Gods call someone to their service, it is not our business to deny them based on their genetic origin. To do so is to go against the Gods, and thus is to commit treason against Asgard.

So, if you came here looking for racist crap, please take your jack-boots, funny armbands, and white hoods and Go to Hel."

http://www.webcom.com/lstead/welcome.html

And Uppsalla provides this useful history:

http://www.winterscapes.com/uppsala/svartorm.htm

They make their anti-racist message very clear:

"Although this record is far from complete, I think it adequately shows how our people handled relations with other races. They treated everyone the same, based on actions, and not on skin color, even going so far as to accept other races living in their homelands. At no point has anything occurred in our history that justifies bigotry towards other races, and its a disgrace to our ancestors to ignore their involvement with others. We should take into account and be proud of everything noteworthy our people have done, not twist their history to suit an ill-conceived notion of "Pure Norse heritage".

I've made this list not for the folkists, so much as those among us that are unsure of their stance on racism in our religion. Doesn't our religion encourage taking action when action is demanded? This poison MUST be purged from our religion, before it does even more harm than it already has. The folkists have no legs left to stand on, as neither history, nor religion are on their side, and they can and will be toppled. Stand up and be heard people, for Valhalla isn't a home for the meek or cowardly."
 
"It has been the sad fate of Asatru to have had our faith highjacked by some subhuman maggots who are trying to hitch their sick and twisted political wagon to our faith."

Maggots?

Maggots?


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh...make it stop...its too fuuny! Where have I heard THAT before?

You should qrite your religious leaders Tuoni. tell them you are both of their faith a White Nationalist AND an anti-racist, convince them it works. In fact a good test of faith would be to make the email exchange the subject of your next blog post. Are you up to it? It sounds like an ideal test of your bravery tome.
 
*falling down laughing*

Mansa, I have to admit that one went right past me.

Maggots!

Oh the irony!
 
Fan of Albel the Wicked, I presume?
 
Now that wasn't very culturally sensitive was it was my dear Moooooosa.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha.

By the way talking of not being very "culturally sensitive"...oh how horrible...

Are you HIV positive?

Don't take offence...it's an honest question...just like asking whether somebody has been on a reserve or not...I just want to know whether you could give us some insite into your situation, you know share some culture, give us some personal background that will help us figure you out...just like we can learn a lot be asking this inferior status Indian scum who defends the wicked white man whether he's been on a reserve....

Come now let's be culturally "sensitive" my dear Moosoa...you wouldn't want people to think your...Odin forbid...a racist..ah.
 
"How do you come to adopt the Asatru religion anyway? "

I've been an Asatruar since I was 13.

"You should qrite your religious leaders Tuoni"

Asatru doesn't have religious leaders. :)

Folkish Asatru and non-Folkish Asatru are two different religions people.

I was once a member of one of the non-Folkish Organizations.

I am currently not a member of any organizations.
 
Besides, I seperate my religion from my political beliefs. My use of the swastika falls "only" under my religious beliefs.
 
"By the way talking of not being very "culturally sensitive"...oh how horrible...

Are you HIV positive?"



You just can't let it go can you? Would it really be so bad to live on a reservation? Notice, I didn't assume you lived on a reservation because you were a Status Indian it is when you mention people who happen to ALSO be status Indians that I thought perhaps you live in a Native American community.


Your question was blatantly racist. Maybe if you asked do I live in a Black area or even the ghetto, maybe, perhaps that would be an equivalent, the latter choice being about as offensive as asking about reservations.



Actually, I've never even heard of the term until you mentioned it, after looking it up this is a Canadian term meaning you are a member of a First Nation, we don't have that in America, you can apply for recognition as a member of certain Native American Nations depending on their laws but they don't call you a status Indian.


And to answer your question no I'm not HIV Positive. So do you have a hot sister or cousin? How old is your mom?

As far a you Tuoni though they aren't leaders they are representatives of the religion. Why not share your views on your identity with them?
 
Every Asatruar no matter what branch is his/her own representative. We are not a cult like christianity, judaism, islam, catholicism and similar religions are.

That is why we don't share the same political beliefs all the time.

The only thing all Asatruars share is we are generally conservatives. That is unusual for a heathen/pagan religion.
 
Do you live in a ghetto then?
 
Oh come now...

How can that question be blatently "racist"?

White people have HIV to you know?

All this stuff about people in Africa(and African-Americans) having a special risk is merely a "racist" stereotype right?
 
By the way Tuoni, I don't want to pretend that I'm not sniggering as much as these multiculti's about your Asatruism.

What exactly do you believe?
What really does your religion entale?
 
I wish you had AIDS, Nicolas.
 
Do you live in a ghetto then?

No, I live in an upscale nieghborhood in the DC Metro area. Our house's value is about $800K.

"Oh come now...

How can that question be blatently "racist"?

White people have HIV to you know?

All this stuff about people in Africa(and African-Americans) having a special risk is merely a "racist" stereotype right?"


So, do you have HIV? I don't think people of African descent are at special risk, thats unproven, disproportionately high though is the truth.

As far as Tuoni is considered I for one do not look done on people for religious beliefs. Why do you assume anyone is doing that?
 
Actually, Musa your right, my comparison was poor, maybe,if you had asked me whether I had alcohal problems, I could ask about HIV, your right it wasn't a very good comparison, but I was looking for something extreme to say.

Your quite wrong though about African-Americans being in danger from the disease, they are, and if people arn't taugh to be mindfull we could well have a major epidemic in the states. Of course its the White people I'm most concerned about, but you should take this seriously as well.
 
well your house value is far greater than mine.
 
So I don't think you have ever told us what is your etnic background? Status Indian does not tell me much, what percentage Native are you? I'm 1/8. I don't think anyone is at a greater risk of getting AIDs, when I say that I mean that you contract the disease more easily.


Black people in the densely populated inner cities inflate the population of infected Blacks with their irresponible lifestyle, the same can be said of homosexuals and many in Africa practice irresponsible practices as well. If you practice safe sex, stay away from needles and choose your partners wisely (don't go to clubs and pick up girls for one night stands) you are relatively safe regardless of your race.


I think WN do a disservice to White people especially the ladies by citing STD statistics as evidence that race-mixing is dangerous. The vast majority of people do not have STDs you are more in danger as a White person of contradcting STDs by leading an irresponsible sexual lifestyle than you are if every one of your partners is Black.


Who is more at risk of HIV? The White girl who gets drunk every weekend and has unprotected sex with different men?


Or, The White girl who dates reasonably clean cut guys and always uses protection regardless of thier race?
 
"I don't think anyone is at a greater risk of getting AIDs, when I say that I mean that you contract the disease more easily. "

THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR SAYING.

WHEN PEOPLE CONTRACT THE DISEASE MORE EASILIY THAT MEANS THEY ARE AT GREATER RISK.
 
More often not more easily. You can't prove being Black means you are more susceptible to contracting the disease. Yes, more people in your popuation means you are more at risk of infection by being with those type of people.


But the STD percentage of a demographic is highly insignificant compared to an individual's lifestyle. Wearing a condom alone makes you 99% less likely to contract HIV regardless of who your partner is. Now sure you can say girls who choose Black boyfriends are at a greater risk than girls who choose White boyfriends but when you factor in their lifestyle choices the girl who has unprotected sex is at a much higher risk than the other girl reardless of the race of the boy.


Also to use reverse the logic. If WN asserations on STDs are to be believed and followed as a Black Man who does not have HIV I should start exclusively having sex with White girls to avoid contracting the disease and leave Black and Hispanic women alone.


It's the same logic they use with human beauty. If White people are the pinnicale of beauty and we are to believe this ying yang, then shouldn't people of color try to improve their gene pools by mixing with Whites? WN can't have it both ways. They can't spread anti-non White propaganda and not have it backfire on them.
 
Nick, read my blog. :) I have a post there about it. At least I did. If I don;t I will add a new one. I may have deleted it.
 
Its not WN who run the propaganda industry.

Your logic doesn't follow, excluded a Black woman in place for a White still doesn't protect one from the virus. www.CharlesDarwinresearchInstitute.com
 
the finnish army...hhm...ruins of Surmia..ok...couldn't find posts on HIV or Odinism/Asatruism, though I've read up on thier sites for fun.
 
Ofcourse it doesn't and thats why their STD statistics are pointless. They try to discourage interracial dating with STD stastistics which do not decrease your risk of infection. Anyone can get HIV by simply having sex with someone who has it. Getting tested eliminates the possiblity of infection. You cannot get HIV from someone who does not have HIV.
 
By the way your Darwin link doesn't work
 
"the finnish army...hhm...ruins of Surmia..ok...couldn't find posts on HIV or Odinism/Asatruism, though I've read up on thier sites for fun. "

I never had an HIV link.

I will post it again sometime then, I must of deleted it when I split my blogs way back when.
For now..
http://www.runestone.org/flash/home.html
http://www.runestone.org/flash/introduction/primer.html
 
...and Blacks are more likely to have it.
 
You can only get HIV from people who have HIV. *Anyone* can get HIV, and nobody is immune or more *safe* than anyone else.

Exposure to HIV through unrpotected sex or drugs obviously raises your risk-- no matter what your race.

Its all very simple.
 
Yes Yo, Nick seems to be ignoring or not comprehending my point. Simply put, you sexual life style and choice whether or not to share needles uing drugs is the biggest factor in whether or not you contract HIV not which demographic has it the most. MOST people of every ethnic demographic do not have AIDs.


So, the person who sleeps around having random unprotected sex with whichever ethnic demographic has the least percentage of infected people is MORE likely to get HIV than the person who has responsible sex with people of the demographic who have the most percentage of infected people.
 
Some people get HIV more often than others, and some people spread it faster than others this is well documented.

Just as some Black tribes in Africa have developed an immunity to leprosy, it has been hypothesized by some scientists, that Europeans and Asians have developed something similar perhaps after the Black death.

You might try looking into the lifestyle bit. The AID's epidemic has got quite bad in Africa, and is spreading to the united states.
Spreading from the Black population to the White population. The Blacks know this and in some very sickening scenes deliberately spread the disease to Whites whose "lifesyle" has not caused them to contract it. Its much more that life style.

Besides, I don't know why your so touchy about this. I'm not particularily touchy about being accociated with drinking problems.

Can anyone deny that the AIDS epidemic is currently a Black thing?

Have we got millions of Europeans and Chinese contracting it, the way they did the Black plague?

You might re-examine your hypocrisy when we so many Blacks believing in the AIDS conspiracy promoted by that stupid nobel price winner, "the U.S gov. is using AIDS to exterminate the Blacks!!! AHH, run for your lives!!!"

Come on, how can so many BLacks beleive this, and yet not believe that they are infected at much higher rates that Whites and Asians.
 
No Nick, HIV is just HIV. You either have it or you do not. If you engage is hazardous behaviour, you are at risk of spreading the virus, and that risk is equal to another person with HIV engaging in the same behaviour.

You want to comfort yourself by believing that some people are more risky than others-- this is the very attitude that often leads to people contracting AIDS. "But he doesn't look like...." isn't going to protect you.

The saddest thing right now is that the one of the largest risk groups at the moment are heterosexual, married, and monogamous women and their children-- women whose husbands are busy deluding themselves.

I am not particularly "touchy" about this issue, btw-- I am just presenting you with the facts. The virus does not care what race you are. And it is behaviour that spreads it, not race.
 
While we are on the subject of "high risk behaviour.... Take a gander at this:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=145962&messageid=1117405494
 
“Besides, I don't know why your so touchy about this. I'm not particularily touchy about being accociated with drinking problems.”


You keep playing the race card. What is your Native background? I've already told you mine. My Dad had drinking problems, he's 1/4 Cherokee and so did my Grandfather who is of course 1/2 Cherokee. I don't touch the stuff. AIDS is not even related to the Black Plague so why would Europeans have some sort of immunity to HIV because of unrelated diseases? I read into the HIV/CIA conspiracy my father actually believed it citing Jesse Jackson as the source and when I asked him the evidence he said he didn't actually no what it was, so there is some truth to such paranoia. Yo, is right I read the book On The Down Low about bisexual men who try to lead heterosexual lives and end up infecting their wives and girlfriends with HIV which is more prominent among gays. Very disturbing stuff. Down Low behavior is more prominent in the Black Community because our community is less tolerant of homosexuality than Whites but DL behavior is not exclusive to Blacks. New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey was obviously on the Down low the book even said men on the down low come in every race and function in every facet of society including as politicians.

The idiot came out as gay even though he was married with kids, he didn't even know he was on the DL.

Nick, there is no proof whatsoever that some people contract the disease more easily than others. You'd have to do a scientific study on people who have unprotected sex to see how easily they get the disease. And it is absurd to say Blacks are spreading the disease to Whites because in the 80's it was thought of as a Gay White Man's disease. No one is getting touchy I just do not adhere to bullshit and when I smell it I call it. You are too quick to make assumptions. Based on scientific research HIV is a virus that evolved from Simian Immuno Deficiency Virus and jumped to humans to create a human version. It entered the blood of humans various ways, likely through hunters contracting blood wounds from Apes and from their it spread through sex. Homosexuals rarely use condoms because they cannot get pregnant and anal sex spreads disease faster than normal sex.

All STD statistics prove is what population is practicing the safest sex. Many cultures in Africa obviously do not practice safe sex as much as they should. I highly suggest you do the research before willfully believing everything you hear.
 
I won't go into the AIDS bit,since we have both "BS" with no actual research prepared...but you seem to be very insistance on my family history.

I reconsider now that it was probably a mistake mentioning it since when last I looked in the multicultural rule book however.

1)You have to look, non-White to play the race card, while claiming to represent everyone.

Yes, you were right, I guess, I can't play the race-card very well on any major scale, though I playfully hoped I would be able to woo some White people by mentioning the fact before defending their rights, unfortunately, I may have alienated many good White Nationalists in the process of revealing that.

Yup, this card-games rigged.

I'll be a bit clearer, on my ancestry just to humour you. My status indian component was carefully manetained over the generation, but a series of inbreeding and outbreeding. Generally, you would have a French-Indian marry into one population to receive thier genetic quality and the red-indian to receive thier hand-outs and free whisky. My Gandfather, was such a mixed-type, as about two or three generation before him, though he would have looked very southern European, handsome, despite, his perverted-non-white behaviour, and much sought after for his apperent rascal cleverness, amoung them. They practiced some sort of voodoo-like-indian spiritualism, ignored the CAtholic priest, save when it was Sunday, and it was time to start acting-White again.

Needless to say, it pains my heart to see so many White people believe that race doesn't matter.
 
I'm glad so many White people shun your ideology you speak so shamefully of your heritage its really disturbing. Voodo spiritualism? Perverted Non-White Behavior? there is no such things as non-White behavior I don't know why you kid yourself.


If your Amerindian heritage is is two generations back from you grandfather thats is fairly distant. That would make you 1/32 to 1/64 Native American and you did not even name the tribe but perhaps I'm just not familiar with Canadians, French-Indian did you say? But yeah, in America I'd wager that atleast 30-40 million White people have as much Native American Blood as you. Mine is a bit closer, my Great Grandmother who was my father's grandmother lived with his family during their last years. She was a full blooded Cherokee, there was no oppurtunity for her to act White she was a "red-woman" with a Black family.
She taught my father how two cook making him as skillfull as most women in that department. In any case I would be interested in just how crucial this status Indian stuff is in Canada.


If you were American and you told people your Native percentage in defense of your views so as not to sound like a total Nazi by embracing your impurity most people would not e impressed. Now the Ojibwa boy who shot up his school. He lived on a reservation and embraced Nazism, not for the White Race but for Native American purity even though he himself admitttedly had French ancestry. That type of person who so willfully embraces an ideology for himself turns heads.

http://www.mootstormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1567

Some of you guys such as Spanisheyes nd DiabloBlanco in my opinion seem to do this to defend your Whiteness against your heritage. SpanishEyes is 1/4 Arab. Diablo is a swarthy italian. And you indentify as a status Indian.


Its like you all where your non-White status lie a badge. Among them you'd probably be most accepted, Stormfronters don't care much about Indian blood, atleast not publicly on the board since it is so common.
 
Musa is a sophist let him spin in his little world, for it is changing for the worst everyday, as this war drags on, as the president acrues more power than constitutionally allowed, and as CAFTA goes through.

Nope don't waste your time on this liar and snake in the grass. Forget this idiots.
 
Thanks, you make me feel better Vedioves,
Long live America! Long live the Anglo-Saxon race!

Musa: You weren't paying attention, it goes far more than two generations back anyway, I said that they bred "out" and "in" in order to benefit from gov. priveledges and good White genes. In reality my greatgrandfather did not have that much Indian blood in him anyway, but could still benefit...his behaviour was quite like thiers.

As a matter of fact, I was born in the United States of America, though most of my Ancestors have lived in Canada since the beginning of European stabilization on this Continent.
As for that boy, distantly I share someting with him, the tribe that you mentioned the Ojibwa, is indeed the Canadian tribe that I am distantly related too. I do have prouder lineages however, the Old Count of Worminghall in England, is supposedly an ancestor of mine.

Just in case you arn't a lier, I though I might ask a simple question.

"Why do you get a boy like that, one behaving the way he did, when most non-Whites simply make use of the Multicultural technique, too further their own evil, ethnic and racist agendum against the Good White Man?"

Why?

I have mourned this boy. In a way his picture reminds me of many of the Philipinoes I knew in Kindergarten.
He was honest, whatever his faults.
 
I have lived thier too for most of my life
 
"Why do you get a boy like that, one behaving the way he did, when most non-Whites simply make use of the Multicultural technique, too further their own evil, ethnic and racist agendum against the Good White Man?"

Hate dogma is for the weak minded. That boy was a grade school outcast just like the Columbine kids but worse instead of joining other outcasts according to the kids who knew him he was a complete loner. Anyone who feels outcast from society is going to look for reasons to hate that society and are there for easy prey as I a said for hate dogma.


Its not that he was stupid, on the contrary I read his posts he was intelligent but he was so willing to believe anything he wanted to hold against society and when you are willing to believe anything regardless of morals or logic you are weakening you own mind and opening it up to the hateful dogmas that exist in the world such as Nazism.


Loneliness can lead people done a path of hate and that’s what I think happened to that boy. He surrounded himself with something perceived as evil in the world and convinced himself it was good.

After all the Native Americans are nearly extinct should they not fight to keep their bloodlines pure and resist the multicultural influences of the media that trip his people of their culture?

When he tried to spread his "wisdom" and got rejected it probably made him angry and being blamed for plotting another 4/20 school shooting likely pushed him over the age. Kids said he would go to school putting his hair in horns to look like a devil and was always angry. The boy had issues, he likely suffered from depression and was slowly corrupting himself until he apparently snapped and went on a killing spree, murdering his own flesh and blood direct ancestor in his Grandfather and killing the children whose racial purity he wanted to save. Total self destruction, and from all that what did he get as his reward for following Nazism? Death. That’s my take on it anyway. Everything I said is factual as well as my honest opinion take it as you will.

As for Vedioves you can go to Tuoni's blog and read my response to his repetitive antics.

http://swanoftuonela.blogspot.com/

read the comments page under the post Bigots vs. Bigots. I won't grace him with another direct response he doesn't deserve it. You can also see me make an idiot of him on his own blog.

http://whitenationalism.blogspot.com/

He threw a temper tantrum and ceased responding. I hope he doesn't attempt to save face by deleting the comments because I archived them and even saved s screenshot. We wouldn't want him to make a bigger idiot of himself than he already has.

But honestly Nick, this ideology is self destructive I suggest you hear it from a man who knows best. Have you ever heard of George Burdi? He's from your hometown of Toronto. Follow these links and tell us what you think.

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2407732?htv=12

(watch the video first)

http://www.adl.org/poisoning_web/racist_rock.asp

http://www.mootstormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=10229#post10229

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=178786

I have lived their too for most of my life

I was born on a U.S. Air force base in the Philippines interestingly enough back when my father was in the military. But other than birth I know nothing of it as besides the 8 months I lived there I have spent the rest of my life in the USA.
 
"Not only is Arthur Kemp ignorant about the origin of the term Caucasian, but he also associates it with “Nordic Indo-Europeans". The Georgians, from whom Blumenbach was inspired to coin the term “Caucasian” are not Indo-European, but speak a language of the Caucasian family. In the next topic, we will see that Europeans were NOT descended from people originating in the Russian steppes."

You know there are so many easily identifiable fallacies on that refuting
Authur Kempt page. The one I quote is the most pathetic...you know why...he never said anything about the modern Georgians, plus, modern Georgians don't have anything to do with the Caucasian mountains relating to the word.

A second fallacy I quickly identified at a glance was when they said, he lied about Spain being Celtic, he didn't put it quite like that...modern historians today do group most of them as in having a Celtic Language, and it seems in non-Indo-European- European parts of Europe there was much mixture between European, groups, it is easy enough to identify them as being "Celtic," in some books they refer to most of Northern Europe as haveing a celtic movement of people at one time or another. It was very lame to question his use of the word "celtic"-- some books, label the Italic language group of the Italians as in being "Celtic" and even some slavic parts of Europe.THere playing games again.

Also, the statues on Crete, are a complicted case, I think they should re-review, their colours, and the historical symbolosim of some of them to the ancient Minoans (who by the way I do agree were mostly mediterainisn)

They also play games on the portugese question. We have far better source than the one Kemp provided. We have family histories.

Even some famous Saints of the Roman Catholic Church, who's sad family stories serve as evidence of blood mixture. There is more overweilming evidence. Kemp appears to have been researching other questions.

I suggest we review the review.
 
I don't consider the refuting Kemp page or kemp's work itself to be reliable or for the most part credible. You can analyze it but I don't have much interest in it.
 
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2005-06-13T214825Z_01_N13104302_RTRIDST_0_HEALTH-AIDS-BLACKS-DC.XML
 
Nick what's the point? That post doesn't in anyway challenge anything we are saying. Read this.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/05/01/DOWNLOW.TMP&type=health


So did you follow the links on George Burdi? I highly suggest checking all the links out you will see a video synopsis of his background and life, info on his band, and his encounters on both Stormfront and MootStormfront it is a very interesting read.
 
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2407732?htv=12

(watch the video first)

http://www.adl.org/poisoning_web/racist_rock.asp

http://www.mootstormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=10229#post10229

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=178786
 
Oops that was the wrong MootStormfront thread its this one.

http://www.mootstormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=963
 
*sigh*

This is actually the complete thread.(damn what is that?)

http://www.mootstormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=957&page=1&pp=10
 
Oh I have no problem with an honorable challenge. I just don't see anyone being stupid enough to fly or drive across North America to get in a fight with someone over an internet conversation. Its not a crime for me to not take you seriously and then ridicule you for it especially when you were the one throwing insults first. And, you're a good one to tell someone else to shut up you're the one instigating.
 
You're just a coward who makes redundant accusations of lies you never elaborate on and then engage in deluded ramblings about someone's "nature" to validate arguments you can't win. Pathetic.
 
I agree he is a sophist and a lier, who cleverly shifts the facts and arguments, but he is also appearing to live up to our standard of an honourable conversation. We should not disgrace ourselves.
 
Nick up until now I have considered you among the other White Nationalists who engage in honorable debate. Do not debase yourself by buddying around with degenerate hypocrites like Viedoves and his ilk who engage in ad hominem attacks such as calling people sophists and liars because they cannot keep up in debate. You read his blog, he is not an honorable opponent.


He cannot adhere to honesty and reason and people like him resort to petty baseless attacks on the character of people they do not know out of anger for being shown up in discussion. I do not do this. I do not lie to my opponents nor do I deceive them. I debate with honor, I show respect and I refrain from chastising polite opponents when it is clear they have been defeated. I also admit when I am wrong or mistaken and do not try to bullshit my way out of mistakes.


Vedioves is an undisciplined emotional miscreant who spouts childish threats and makes pathetic accusations that someone has offended him and "his people" to make up for his failure to effectively convey his opinion through abstract reasoning. If the best you can do is call someone a liar and resort to ad hominem attacks without being specific about the lies you accuse people of you need to just quit debating and accept your failure to prove the point you were trying to make. Only the brave and honorable will be able to claim absolute victory. The cowardly and weak can only proclaim imaginary victory amongst themselves.
 
NO you engage in shady attack and self serving 'niceness' a wolf in sheeps clothing. Plus I can say what I want how I want because you don't believe in forcing standards upon people, so tough fucking shit because it is your own bullcrap I am feeding back to you.

Don't lie and act like you are fair minded and so magnanimous. I have seen MSF and the under cutting you pull there. I have yet to see an independently referenced Egyptologist on your claims that Eygpt was so black and diverse throughout history, CatchPenny does not count, I have met and talked with recognised Eygptologists who will tell you, your ideas are basically at the core bullshit. So unless someone sucks your balls and talks the way you want on the premises you set, you act like a snyth little bitch. And do not resort to bitching about 'ad hominem' attacks because it is impossible to separate the person from the ideology. You don't know what makes and culture and society cohesive.

Added to that the fact is I believe you area plant and working for an intreast at the University of Maryland, and are not some kid out there on a Crusade.

You call names and try to under cut me, I'll call you names: you simple, spoiled, academic lightweight, suburbanite, lying, horse-fucking, licentious, no-principled, idiot.
 
"Added to that the fact is I believe you area plant and working for an intreast at the University of Maryland, and are not some kid out there on a Crusade."

Oh Jesus Christ. On top of all that I'm not even Black either I'm actually a Jew right? Have you ever posted on VNN Forums?

"I have yet to see an independently referenced Egyptologist on your claims that Eygpt was so black and diverse throughout history, CatchPenny does not count, I have met and talked with recognised Eygptologists who will tell you, your ideas are basically at the core bullshit."

I'd prefer not to discuss board matters with people who refuse to post on the board but rather chastise me on Blog comment pages. I've heard what Egyptologists such as Dr. Hawass have to say on Ancient Egypt and it is obvious they do not like to go over the subject of race, it is not in their culture. I will cover the bases in my final analysis and if you want to post a rebuttle or add any discussion of any kind you can register and do it.

"So unless someone sucks your balls and talks the way you want on the premises you set, you act like a snyth little bitch."

Are you sure you hate Black people? That comment sounded rather ghetto to me.

"And do not resort to bitching about 'ad hominem' attacks because it is impossible to separate the person from the ideology. You don't know what makes and culture and society cohesive."

I'm just using your and your ilk's lingo against you. You aren' in a position to tell me what to do and expect me to comply. You are the Sultan of Ad Hominem and you've got your panties in a twist because we anti-racists have a site to openly debate you.


"You call names and try to under cut me, I'll call you names: you simple, spoiled, academic lightweight, suburbanite, lying, horse-fucking, licentious, no-principled, idiot."

Sticks and stones, Net-Nazi.


"Don't lie and act like you are fair minded and so magnanimous"

Did it ever occur to you that I may have been raised to be fair minded? Honestly, all this crap your ilk spout about cultured people and uncivilized underclass heathen, maybe I was just bred to be a cut above your kind. On top of being honest and fair minded I don't steal, take drugs or cheat on girls. Am I lying about that too? Does it sound too good to be true that your enemy adheres to the elite priniciples of society and courtesy? You're in for a rude awakening son, because this isn't SF Opposing Views.


We're going to build our nets and catch the good fish for the potential anti-racist community and its going to piss you the hell off by the time we're through.
 
I know your right Vedivoes, but you have to fully be aware of Mansa's tactics as I am becoming aware of them. The slightest, out of place behaviour from you, will give him the perfect opportunity he's been waiting for to make himself look the good guy. I'm getting a better sense for his tacts. Recently, on Moot, I spoke a little roughly to one of the cronies there, and Musa used that to come right in as if he was breaking up a fight! However, in my case he can't call me an ass, so he must result to calling me ignorant, since that is a fair claim to make, as I chat randomly. It's better to force him onto the second level. Better to be called "ignorant" and "looser" than be called "coward" and "dishonourable." You know the way the enemy is forced to call Jared Taylor, a "gentile racist" rather than merely a "racist"? Because they know that when people see his honesty and eloquently put arguments people are less likely to beleive he's the bad guy. The same way on that stupid link they put on Moot, they can call DAvid Duke a Palpatine, but dumb little kids like me they are forced to call an "impressionable Anikin Skywalker!" It's better to be known as an Anikin than a Palpatine.

Just respond back as yes if you get what I'm saying. Naturally I would boycott, MOOT like everyone else, but I sort of made a commitment to this guy to talk with him about Egypt, and it looks like I also have an unspoken AIDS promise too.

If you understand this, just nod.
 
when I have the facts at my fingertips that is. I agree with you though Vidoves.
 
that is if there for such a boycott going on? I don't know you can't beleive everything you read on Moot, though it certainly seems like not many WN find the need to buy drinks over there.
 
It appears that the WN board Phora has been hacked and where all their refugees going? Straight to MSF. Your comrades don't come because they are cowards. I see through you Nick. You clearly want comrades so badly that you'll agree with everything they say but even you know what you are saying is bullshit.

As a moderator it's my job to break up fights and police the board. Which is it? Am I really using every opportunity to look like the good guy or is it possible that I am the good guy, I am the Obi-Wan Kenobi, or rather the Yoda, the Young Yoda because we know a young Yoda would have been badass. You aren't the Anakin Nick, not the misguided powerful teenager who was seduced by the darkside you are exhibiting the behavior of Viceroy Gunray, Palpatine's pawn with the green skin and big red eyes. A character easily manipulated and then quickly disposed of. Viedoves is Jango Fett, the wanna be badass and his abstract reasoning is the rocket pack. In that situation I'm Mace Windu, the guy who chops his head off when the rocket pack breaks.


In any case the very notion that you would boycott use makes your fear evident. I hope you don't quit after I crush you on the Egypt thread but the deluded Eyzwydopen was right we really don't let you win the debates, not because we do anything under handed to prevent you from doing so but because more often than not we are right and you are wrong.
 
"t appears that the WN board Phora has been hacked and where all their refugees going? Straight to MSF. Your comrades don't come because they are cowards."

I really have no idea what "phora" is nor do I really understand the rest of your babble but I seem to have upset you in some way...

As for "crushing" did you say, I can't imagine what your talking about...your so confused you don't know whether your coming or going...

The study on the hair fibres has been done...certainly such acadmic books are hard to get ones hands on, nor would you care when I do, BUT you certainly don't crush anything or anyone by puting up such totally obviously "racist" sights like CAtchpeny, that bluntly compare, Black Basketball players to Ancient Eygptians, as if there's any resemblance.

Incidentally, why would I quite ...AFTER YOU CRUSH...why don't I just "quite" NOW...

You see, you don't see through anything or anyone...(not that I really understood what you were talking about)

If anything I SEE through you...

You know I won't quite, until "after" because I am honest and faithful...I promised to show you sources and evidence and so I shall, You know I shall...BUT whatever I do you will find some word game to play and then declare, "I Won," just like that, as if no matter what the books say, "Your right!" You have a truly silly attitude for a moderator, and that's all I was pointing out, nothing more and nothing less.

I think I'm getting a sense of your "bulshit" though, whatever that meant, I really don't know what led you to beleive that I am desperate for Internet "comrades" since I don't use the internet very often anyway, and personal relashonships are far more satisfying than intenet ones.

Since I'm here I'd like to tell you about this guy who, anyway...nah...I'll
save that story till, after "YOU CRUSH ME" or not at all.
 
"The study on the hair fibres has been done...certainly such acadmic books are hard to get ones hands on, nor would you care when I do,"

On that subject how much did you care about the hair sample evidence from my article? You know, the one that was backed up by studies cataloged in science journals? I not the one willfully dismissing evidence and using ad hominem to discredit my opponents rather than battling them with solid evidence.


"I really have no idea what "phora" is nor do I really understand the rest of your babble but I seem to have upset you in some way..."

No I was just messing around and babbling on purpose to show you both how you sound to me. Phora is a WN site that recently got hacked, by now you must have noticed the huge amount of new members in the forum, they have come to invade us.

"BUT you certainly don't crush anything or anyone by puting up such totally obviously "racist" sights like CAtchpeny, that bluntly compare, Black Basketball players to Ancient Eygptians, as if there's any resemblance."

Catchpenny didn't say anything about Basketball plaers that was an Afro-centrist site whcih I agre is somewhat racist but then again racist sites never prevented anyone from taking their data as fact now did it (*cough*Amren*cough*)? I'm not sure if I showed you but their descriptions on Egyptian hues which was my only point in linking to them was supported by an alternate, non-related source which wasn't Afro-centric so there is some truth to that page. And Michael Jordan was a good comparison to Tut's skintone and phenotype.

"Since I'm here I'd like to tell you about this guy who, anyway...nah...I'll
save that story till, after "YOU CRUSH ME" or not at all."



All the rest of the fluff aside I hope the story is more interesting than Dave's garbage about a Turkish Egyptian telling him Egyptians weren't White or Black but rather looked like him and "his" people. Anyway it may take a little longer for me to make my post I've ben busy with other things. Tell me when you want to make a post with your sources and I'll open the thread for that post, but I'm going to avoid letting the thread degenerate into pointless conversation until after my final analysis.
 
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